Showing posts with label Time Dotcom. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Time Dotcom. Show all posts

Wednesday, May 8, 2013

Is it time to hold cash?

When Bob Pisani of CNBC said that many markets are now at all time or at least 52 weeks high, he forgot to say about Malaysian market as well. Before election, Bursa had already reached all time high. Post election, it went berserk, with the KLCI climbed beyond 1,800 points to later taper down to around 1,750 points. Now, after 3 days it is at around 1,770 points.

Is the market overpriced? I don't think so, if you consider the amount of liquidity that are available in the market. Bernanke is still printing money, not leaving his foot from the gas pedal. Japan is even more aggressive, looking at doubling its issuance of bonds. Basically, everywhere in the world, we are seeing people (rich people that is) do not know where to put their money. In Asia, property has gone to prices where it has never reached before.

Well, so it seems for stocks as well. People whom are holding cash will feel like cash is NOT KING. I provide a scenario. Even with stocks, a decent pick would have its dividend return better than returning a 3.2% interest from Fixed Deposits. Don't believe me. Look at the comparison between Fixed Deposit vs dividends.

Fixed Deposits earned if I would have put the money from Felice's Fund
Based on above, the total FD that I would have earned from the money put in is only RM2,664.55. Against the dividend earned from the portfolio, which one provides me with a better return so far? Few years ago, no one would have expected total dividend earned to be higher than the interest earned from FD.


Now, it seems like it is an issue if one is to hold cash. The return would not even beat real inflation (do not believe the number provided to us...). Hence, all kinds of riskier assets are sought. It in fact seems to me holding cash is the riskier of them all currently.

Nevertheless, the exuberance over the last few days caused me to re-plan. I had wanted to hold Time Dotcom for a longer while, as I wanted Digi's distribution as part of my holding. But it seems that with the sudden rise in stocks over the last few days, I think that selling Time Dotcom would be the better thing to do while I look for another stock to hold.

Sold Time Dotcom

I think I know which one to have if the price is right as there are some stocks which retreated a bit despite the rise in KLCI.

p.s. the sale is partly to do with I believe some of the hands are pushing some stocks up to prove some point...

Tuesday, April 23, 2013

Add on to Timecom

I have decided to add on to TimeCom by buying another 400 units.

Price bought was not too good i.e. RM4.10 but I guess this is to allow when provided with Digi shares as dividends, there are no odd lots. As per announcement, for every 2500 units of TimeCom shares held, the shareholder will be provided with 600 units of Digi shares.

Prior to this I was holding 2100 units of Timecom. The purchase of 400 units will increase the holdings to 2500 units.

The distribution will be quite soon as I can see it. I am looking forward to holding some of the Digi shares.

Monday, December 10, 2012

Time Engineering is not related to Time Dotcom anymore

Just wanted investors or traders to know. Today, Time Dotcom (TdC) is having a good run due to its announcement of distributing (proposal) 6 shares of Digi's shares for every 25 shares of TdC held. While this is good in terms of untangling its Digi shares held hence allowing shareholders to directly hold Digi now, for shareholders of Time Engineering, one should note that it is no longer related to TdC. See below. I see that Time Engineering rose 8% as well today. Should not happen.


I would say Time Engineering now has not much of a business, but its balance sheet is clean with some RM60 million cash. Don't think its worth RM244 million of market cap as at now though. Look below, it is struggling to find good businesses from its liquid assets it holds.

On another note, TdC by distributing Digi's shares, it's performance in future will be more reflective of its own performance as investment income (dividends contribution from Digi) may be reduced by half. Also, assuming Digi's price is RM4.84, the value of Digi's shares that is to be distributed by TdC per share is at 0.24 x RM4.84 = RM1.16.

Thursday, August 23, 2012

Time Dotcom: Fiber is the future

Let's face it, despite the uneasiness on how the Time Dotcom's (TdC) deal was crafted out, this is a changed company. It has gone from a boring, old, overstaffed, lack of leadership and direction type of company to something of a challenge to Telekom Malaysia (TM). It has a young CEO, a small Board (I do not like large Board), healthy Balance Sheet and a cashflow positive company now.

Despite that, is TdC up to the challenge against TM? Remember, TM may still have the symptom of an old TdC, as it is a much bigger company but its focus on fiber and with a breathe of fresh air from some of its new management people, this giant has sort of awakened - thanks to a large part from the help of government's fund (or rather our fund) for the HSBB rollout, as well.

Will TdC being the second largest in terms of providing wholesaling of bandwidth be able to compete? Now, let's look where it is heading in terms of what it does. This is what it says it provides from its website:

"As a data-centric operator, TdC’s business is anchored at providing backhaul and wholesale bandwidth solutions to leading local, regional and global operators. The Group also offers extensive fibre optic-based telecommunications services to large corporations, government organisations and enterprises that demand uncompromising reliability. Within the consumer space, TdC offers 100% fibre-based broadband services." 

Sounds confusing? - it does, which is why it is not getting much followings despite the change in management and focus. Basically to explain, it is a company that looks at multiple ways into providing the highway to the telcos (Maxis, Digi, Celcom, Green Packet or even regional telcos), while these telcos concentrate on building the smaller roads, retailing, marketing and billing system.

If we look at it, as mentioned, its main challenger is TM with the mobile players themselves building their own roads as well. Does this mean TdC has quite some competition? Yes, however as with the new team, it concentrates on doing what it thinks it knows best which is providing a better highway than the rest. With that, and considering that the number of players in this area are still not that many (due to size required, cashflow and licensing), TdC has a targeted role to play.

Just look at its financial summary below for its performance for the last 4 years.


The new management took over the business in October 2008. As you can see, large write-offs were done in 2008. From then on, major VSS was done to reduce its operational costs as the group was involved in all kinds of telco-related businesses which were largely unprofitable.

While revenue was not growing much at all, its restructuring was good enough for the company to see very nice profits growth.

You will notice that I have pulled out "Income from Investments" from the financial statement. This is due to its holdings in Digi which it now owns 275 million shares worth about RM1.35 billion now. While this is very substantial to the group, the holding should not be looked at a measure of the group's performance. (Remember Digi issued 5% of its shares to TdC for the 3G license few years ago.)

For the valuation of TdC, I would like to put a 20% discount on the value of Digi. Why? We have no direct holding on Digi. If we are to put the full value, we might as well buy Digi direct.

At its current price of RM3.41, the market value of TdC is now RM1.95 billion. Deducting Digi's value of RM1.078 billion after the 20% discount given, TdC's business is being valued at around RM870 million. (Get over the valuation that TdC gave (RM337 million) for its purchase of AIMS and GTC.) Are TdC's businesses alone worth RM870 million?

What would the new acquisitions of AIMS and GTC be contributing to TdC's bottomline? An extra 20% to 30% in terms of profit (ex-dividend from Digi). Now, with that I would think TdC would be able to hit almost RM100 million PAT (before Digi's contribution) a year. On top of that, it has some great assets which the group is continuing to reinvests into.

I feel that TdC, with its concentration on being a wholesaler, though not fantastically sweet, it is doing the best it could with what they have with the existing competition. It has let go of the B2C business which is vastly competitive. Currently it is concentrating into providing pipes as backhaul (and other hosts of services) for the telcos, which I think is the right decision. And importantly, at its current market value of RM1.95 billion together with its holdings of 275 million Digi's shares, I think it is attractive. On what angle?

If you look below, the TdC's sweet spot are the potential growth of data revenue as well as its tie-up with Astro into providing Astro's B'yond IPTV. To a certain extent, as I have mentioned in an earlier article on Astro, the future is going to be delivering content via fiber pipes not satellites. As Astro is now a direct competitor to TM, it may not yet want to rely on TM's fiber, but TdC's. Hence, revenue from selling these pipes to home can be a significant revenue growth to TdC although these are yet to contribute as of now.


What about depreciation? Importantly, as seen below, it has not carried much assets anymore in the books as we do not want to be surprised by large write-offs in future.



With that, I have bought a small quantity of 2,100 units at RM3.41.


Tuesday, June 21, 2011

Time Dotcom - Til today they can't get their heads straight

Most investors would remember that Time Dotcom was rescued by the then, Telecommunications Minister Lim Keng Yaik. LKY was probably forced to not provide a 3G license to Digi (when it is the one who can do something with it), but yet gave the license to Time (the one with financial trouble) - forced Digi who had no choice but to lease the license from Time and voila, Time's big hole was patched allowing it with a positive cash position today. Not bad for the rejuvenation of a Malaysian company without doing anything strategic. (If you notice, Time owns some Digi shares which they listed as investments in the books. FYI, they have sold a large chunk for the cash they have as at todate)

But yet Time's predicament which is not having a strong business (yes they continue to have the fibre from the North-South Highway) persisted until few years ago. Until they found Afzal (a guy who has ideas worth some millions but not the hundreds of millions he has now!). Afzal owns AIMS with several connected partners probably had it tough to grow the business until that big break. I cannot comprehend the valuation of a group of companies which in their mind is valued at RM334 million by CIMB assisting. Tell me how are we supposed to value some small data centers which they put little money to start with and later tell Time Dotcom shareholders it is now worth more than RM330 million? No profit guarantee but some wishy-washy profit forecasts.

And 2 days ago, what makes me sick is that Time Engineering (another listed entity who owns around 24% of Time Dotcom), puts up their holding of Time Dotcom for sale at RM0.53 per share. Can someone tell me why then Time Dotcom is valued at RM0.80 per share during the proposed sale of the shares? No analysts dare to make any comments on this?

Does this mean that Time Engineering does not believe that the share is worth RM0.80 as in the market price (before the announcements) or could again something is done behind the scene?

I suspect that someone is using this opportunity to wipe the overhang shares from the market at a below market price.

Serious Investing!